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New CDC guidance on H5 dairy influenza
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RonO
2024-11-08 14:53:16 UTC
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The CDC is still calling this bird flu when that hasn't been true of
human infections since the beginning. Birds have infected humans, but
only after the birds were infected by the dairy workers. This has been
a dairy influenza epidemic from the beginning, but the CDC has never
treated it as they should have.

It should also be noted that the absence of symptoms among infected
could explain the unexplained H5 virus in city waste water.

It sounds like the CDC is finally going to do what they should have done
from the start. They are going to try to identify the infected herds
and test dairy workers so that they can treat the infected humans with
antivirals and try to limit the multiplication of the virus in human
hosts. The more virus replicating in humans the more chance that
mutations will be selected for that better infect humans. That has been
known from the beginning, but the CDC decided to only "monitor" the
situation and recommend that workers working on infected dairies should
use protective equipment. The stupid thing was that they knew that more
herds were infected than were being admitted to, but allowed the workers
at those farms to remain unprotected.

That seems to be finally changing and the extent of the dairy infection
is finally going to be determined, but the measures are still
inadequate. The USDA is only testing all herds in states that have
confirmed infected herds when they know that there are other states with
infected herds that they should be testing. This is just stupid and has
been stupid from the beginning. At the very least they should be
testing the herds in Missouri. They should also test dairy herds in all
states where poultry were infected by the dairy virus. In all verified
cases the poultry farms get the dairy virus from nearby dairies, likely
due to some dairy workers also working on poultry farms.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/t1107-mmwr-telebriefing.html
RonO
2024-11-12 00:30:54 UTC
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Post by RonO
The CDC is still calling this bird flu when that hasn't been true of
human infections since the beginning.  Birds have infected humans, but
only after the birds were infected by the dairy workers.  This has been
a dairy influenza epidemic from the beginning, but the CDC has never
treated it as they should have.
It should also be noted that the absence of symptoms among infected
could explain the unexplained H5 virus in city waste water.
It sounds like the CDC is finally going to do what they should have done
from the start.  They are going to try to identify the infected herds
and test dairy workers so that they can treat the infected humans with
antivirals and try to limit the multiplication of the virus in human
hosts.  The more virus replicating in humans the more chance that
mutations will be selected for that better infect humans.  That has been
known from the beginning, but the CDC decided to only "monitor" the
situation and recommend that workers working on infected dairies should
use protective equipment.  The stupid thing was that they knew that more
herds were infected than were being admitted to, but allowed the workers
at those farms to remain unprotected.
That seems to be finally changing and the extent of the dairy infection
is finally going to be determined, but the measures are still
inadequate.  The USDA is only testing all herds in states that have
confirmed infected herds when they know that there are other states with
infected herds that they should be testing.  This is just stupid and has
been stupid from the beginning.  At the very least they should be
testing the herds in Missouri.  They should also test dairy herds in all
states where poultry were infected by the dairy virus.  In all verified
cases the poultry farms get the dairy virus from nearby dairies, likely
due to some dairy workers also working on poultry farms.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/t1107-mmwr-telebriefing.html
The CDC wants to start testing dairy workers, but the claim is that
Trump getting elected is going to impede that effort. The dairy workers
have always avoided testing, but now a lot of them have to worry about
deportation since they are often undocumented aliens. The dairy
industry is going to have to deal with Trump. They survive with the
workers willing to do the jobs around the farms, and the dairy industry
doesn't much care about their immigration status.

Ron Okimoto

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