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RonO
2024-11-06 22:33:12 UTC
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India is literally digging up part of their history that they probably
do not want to face. The data on the origins of the Aryans may not be
what those in political power want as their history. They are going to
isolate the DNA out of these old bones and find out.

Maybe as far back as the 1990's. It may have been when I was post
docing between 1993 and 1996, but I can't recall. A research paper used
genetic markers to do the type of genetic relationship population
genetics that 23 and Me routinely does, but for the Japanese population.
They did not have very many markers, but there were enough to come to
some conclusions. The research uncovered what was not acceptable to the
Japanese researchers involved in the study and they had their names
removed from the publication. The genetics uncovered something that is
not in the official history of the origin of the Samurai. What hadn't
seemed to be admitted to was that some lord got banished to Hokkaido,
but eventually came back, likely with an army, and took back his fife
and expanded his holdings. It turned out that those modern Japanese
claiming Samurai ancestry (like my family) had genetics that had
obviously come from Hokkaido. They also had skeletal features that
linked them to the Ainu people of Hokkaido that had been treated like
second class citizens. The Japanese researchers did not want to be
involved in a publication that linked the revered Samurai class with the
lowly Ainu.

Both my mother's and father's families claim to be Samurai, and they
have similar family crests. Their claimed pedigrees share some of the
same Samurai ancestors. Both families lived in Hiroshima before my
grand parents immigrated to America. 23 and Me has designated me as
Japanese from Hiroshima, and they also claim that I have genetics that
came from Hokkaido.

The Indians may not find what they want to find.

Ron Okimoto
RonO
2024-11-06 23:08:05 UTC
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India is literally digging up part of their history that they probably
do not want to face.  The data on the origins of the Aryans may not be
what those in political power want as their history.  They are going to
isolate the DNA out of these old bones and find out.
Maybe as far back as the 1990's.  It may have been when I was post
docing between 1993 and 1996, but I can't recall.  A research paper used
genetic markers to do the type of genetic relationship population
genetics that 23 and Me routinely does, but for the Japanese population.
 They did not have very many markers, but there were enough to come to
some conclusions.  The research uncovered what was not acceptable to the
Japanese researchers involved in the study and they had their names
removed from the publication.  The genetics uncovered something that is
not in the official history of the origin of the Samurai.  What hadn't
seemed to be admitted to was that some lord got banished to Hokkaido,
but eventually came back, likely with an army, and took back his fife
and expanded his holdings.  It turned out that those modern Japanese
claiming Samurai ancestry (like my family) had genetics that had
obviously come from Hokkaido.  They also had skeletal features that
linked them to the Ainu people of Hokkaido that had been treated like
second class citizens.  The Japanese researchers did not want to be
involved in a publication that linked the revered Samurai class with the
lowly Ainu.
Both my mother's and father's families claim to be Samurai, and they
have similar family crests.  Their claimed pedigrees share some of the
same Samurai ancestors.  Both families lived in Hiroshima before my
grand parents immigrated to America.  23 and Me has designated me as
Japanese from Hiroshima, and they also claim that I have genetics that
came from Hokkaido.
The Indians may not find what they want to find.
Ron Okimoto
I probably should note that the ruling party is also anti-evolution like
Kalk pretended to be, and has some weird policies to try to deny reality
that have previously been put up on TO.

Ron Okimoto
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