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Fake peer reviews using the names of real scientists.
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RonO
2024-12-04 17:44:55 UTC
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https://www.science.org/content/article/it-felt-very-icky-scientist-s-name-was-used-write-fake-peer-reviews

Getting your buddies to review your paper is bad enough, but some
"scientists" are faking peer reviews and signing other peoples names to
them. This seems to be a new low, and means that those involved are not
interested in producing any valid science.

Ron Okimoto
JTEM
2024-12-04 18:16:56 UTC
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https://www.science.org/content/article/it-felt-very-icky-scientist-s-
name-was-used-write-fake-peer-reviews
Getting your buddies to review your paper is bad enough, but some
"scientists" are faking peer reviews and signing other peoples names to
them.  This seems to be a new low, and means that those involved are not
interested in producing any valid science.
"Peer Review" has been refuted time and time again. You've got to STOP
pretending that it's anything other than a filter to keep out the
uncredentialed, the unpopular and those who offend the political powers.

That's all it's fall.

The true sadness is Peer Review is that we only ever see the shit that
passes through it. We rarely if ever see the proper science that gets
rejected.

One example I can think of was a letter on the topic of the Oral Vaccine
Theory on the origins of AIDS. It was from a properly credentialed
scientist who was an expert in his field and performed research, but it
rubbed the powers-that-be the wrong way.

It also bucked the official narrative at that time, which was that the
theory was all the brain child of a writer, a journalist and not any
scientists...

I'm not saying abandon Peer Review. What I'm saying is that everyone
needs to grab a clue: The science, THE DEBATE begins with publication.

Morons have it backwards and think that the publication ends debate.

"It was published in a Peer Reviewed journal. You can't question it!"

No, YOU CAN AND YOU SHOULD question it!
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RonO
2024-12-04 22:21:59 UTC
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Post by RonO
https://www.science.org/content/article/it-felt-very-icky-scientist-s-
name-was-used-write-fake-peer-reviews
Getting your buddies to review your paper is bad enough, but some
"scientists" are faking peer reviews and signing other peoples names
to them.  This seems to be a new low, and means that those involved
are not interested in producing any valid science.
"Peer Review" has been refuted time and time again. You've got to STOP
pretending that it's anything other than a filter to keep out the
uncredentialed, the unpopular and those who offend the political powers.
You just do not know what you are talking about. Most of the time the
reviewer isn't given the names of the authors of the paper, so it isn't
up to them to determine if the person qualifies as a scientist or not.
The work has to speak for itself. In Poultry genetics there is the
example where a person that was not a biologist started publishing
genetic results that he was generating in his backyard. Look up W.
Clive Carefoot. He published from the 1980's into this century.

He ended up publishing a lot of work that funding agencies were not
funding because they were not "important" enough or did not have
application interests. Fellow backyard breeders appreciated his work a
lot because no one else was doing the type of research that would help
them out.

If your work is sound and conclusions reasonable from that work it can
get published even if the research is considered not to be relevant to
the funding agencies. You just have to add something to the science.
Sturtevant got published in Science (the Journal) for work that he did
in his backyard before he became an undergraduate student at Columbia
and started working in Morgan's lab. Sturtevant went on to develop
linkage mapping. It was something that should have gotten him the Nobel
prize. Nearly all the causative polymorphism were discovered using
linkage mapping. The first breast cancer genes were identified that
way. It is a major means to identify genes associated with muscular
dystrophy and any other genetic disease that have had causative variants
identified.

Ron Okimoto
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That's all it's fall.
The true sadness is Peer Review is that we only ever see the shit that
passes through it. We rarely if ever see the proper science that gets
rejected.
One example I can think of was a letter on the topic of the Oral Vaccine
Theory on the origins of AIDS. It was from a properly credentialed
scientist who was an expert in his field and performed research, but it
rubbed the powers-that-be the wrong way.
It also bucked the official narrative at that time, which was that the
theory was all the brain child of a writer, a journalist and not any
scientists...
I'm not saying abandon Peer Review. What I'm saying is that everyone
needs to grab a clue:  The science, THE DEBATE begins with publication.
Morons have it backwards and think that the publication ends debate.
"It was published in a Peer Reviewed journal. You can't question it!"
No, YOU CAN AND YOU SHOULD question it!
JTEM
2024-12-05 03:11:53 UTC
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Post by RonO
You just do not know what you are talking about.
I do. You're an idiot.

"Peer review" is rubbish. This has been revealed countless
times. I've even shared stories on publishers using A.I.
for "Peer Review."

There's been media on people producing gibberish and getting
it printed in "Peer Reviewed Journals."

It's a farce. Stupid people use "Peer Review" as an excuse
to not think.
Post by RonO
 Most of the time the
reviewer isn't given the names of the authors of the paper, so it isn't
up to them to determine if the person qualifies as a scientist or not.
For nearly all the time you have no clue. You don't. Not even
in hindsight.
Post by RonO
The work has to speak for itself.
And yet we know for a fact that this isn't true.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01436-7

Look. Pull your fingers out of your mouth, or your nose or whatever
orifice you stuck them in, and look. Or check the Google archive.
There's nothing new here, absolutely nothing.
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RonO
2024-12-05 18:54:07 UTC
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Post by RonO
You just do not know what you are talking about.
I do. You're an idiot.
"Peer review" is rubbish. This has been revealed countless
times. I've even shared stories on publishers using A.I.
for "Peer Review."
There's been media on people producing gibberish and getting
it printed in "Peer Reviewed Journals."
It's a farce. Stupid people use "Peer Review" as an excuse
to not think.
Post by RonO
 Most of the time the reviewer isn't given the names of the authors of
the paper, so it isn't up to them to determine if the person qualifies
as a scientist or not.
For nearly all the time you have no clue. You don't. Not even
in hindsight.
What a loser nut job. You contended that peer review was a means to
exclude the uncredentialed, and you seem to be clueless about your own
claims. Just reread what you have snipped out and what you had written
to get that response.

Ron Okimoto
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Post by RonO
The work has to speak for itself.
And yet we know for a fact that this isn't true.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01436-7
Look. Pull your fingers out of your mouth, or your nose or whatever
orifice you stuck them in, and look. Or check the Google archive.
There's nothing new here, absolutely nothing.
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