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CDC lists 52 confirmed cases of dairy influenza in humans
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RonO
2024-11-16 01:33:47 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html

It looks like the CDC added 5 more cases from California and 1 more case
for Washington. They are also claiming that there was one positive case
submitted from California that could not be confirmed at the CDC and 3
cases submitted of Poultry workers from Washington that could not be
confirmed by the CDC. Total is now 52.

The CDC is continuing to not add the seropositive (evidence of past
infection) dairy workers and the close contact of the Missouri patient
as being infected. That would add 11 more to the total.

Ron Okimoto
RonO
2024-11-16 15:00:54 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html
It looks like the CDC added 5 more cases from California and 1 more case
for Washington.  They are also claiming that there was one positive case
submitted from California that could not be confirmed at the CDC and 3
cases submitted of Poultry workers from Washington that could not be
confirmed by the CDC.  Total is now 52.
The CDC is continuing to not add the seropositive (evidence of past
infection) dairy workers and the close contact of the Missouri patient
as being infected.  That would add 11 more to the total.
Ron Okimoto
It wasn't one more case in Washington, but an Oregon poultry worker.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/oregon-reports-first-h5-case-farm-worker-california-reports-5-more

The CDC is counting this as a dairy virus infection, but the Oregon
report did not identify the virus as the dairy H5N1. The previous
poultry flocks in Oregon had been infected by another strain of H5N1
found in migratory fowl.

The Oregon health department should do contact tracing from the infected
flock to find out what worker brought in the dairy virus to the poultry
flock. That worker may have come from Washington or California, but it
may be a local dairy that is infected. In all the other cases the
poultry farms got infected by local dairies that had workers that also
worked on poultry farms. The most recent example of this was Utah that
found 8 local dairies infected after the poultry farm went down.

Ron Okimoto
RonO
2024-11-19 16:42:50 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html
It looks like the CDC added 5 more cases from California and 1 more
case for Washington.  They are also claiming that there was one
positive case submitted from California that could not be confirmed at
the CDC and 3 cases submitted of Poultry workers from Washington that
could not be confirmed by the CDC.  Total is now 52.
The CDC is continuing to not add the seropositive (evidence of past
infection) dairy workers and the close contact of the Missouri patient
as being infected.  That would add 11 more to the total.
Ron Okimoto
It wasn't one more case in Washington, but an Oregon poultry worker.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/oregon-reports-
first-h5-case-farm-worker-california-reports-5-more
The CDC is counting this as a dairy virus infection, but the Oregon
report did not identify the virus as the dairy H5N1.  The previous
poultry flocks in Oregon had been infected by another strain of H5N1
found in migratory fowl.
The Oregon health department should do contact tracing from the infected
flock to find out what worker brought in the dairy virus to the poultry
flock.  That worker may have come from Washington or California, but it
may be a local dairy that is infected.  In all the other cases the
poultry farms got infected by local dairies that had workers that also
worked on poultry farms.  The most recent example of this was Utah that
found 8 local dairies infected after the poultry farm went down.
Ron Okimoto
https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html

Another California dairy worker has been confirmed to be positive, and
there are probably more waiting to be confirmed. Confirmation seems to
take a while for both the USDA and CDC. The USDA has been limited to
confirming around 50 herds a week for the past month they have likely
reached some type of limit for verification with all the cases submitted
from California. One article that I read claimed that California had
claimed to have sent in 39 total samples for verification over 2 weeks
ago, but the CDC has only confirmed 27 and claimed negative results for
another, so there may be 11 more samples that they are still testing.
My guess is that California has sent in even more samples during the
last couple weeks. The article may have been claiming that they had
tested a total of 39 individuals that showed symptoms and had sent in
the positives for verification.

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-11152024.html

The CDC continues to not include the antibody positive dairy workers as
having been confirmed to have been infected.

They have not changed their claim that the Missouri patient did not
exhibit the usual symptoms of influenza infection. The statement is
true, but is the lie of omission because they know that the patient
exhibited symptoms that human patients in Asia exhibited when infected
with H5N1 (evidence of gut infection). The denial is even worse than
that because they are doing it because they do not want to admit that
the patient was likely infected by the milk that they drank. The gut
infections in Asia occurred by ingesting infected goose blood. The
CDC's own research had indicated that the most common pasteurization
method used in the US did not reduce the infective virus to below
detection levels, and they recommended that more testing of the milk
supply was warranted. The Missouri patient's symptoms indicated that
they should have tested the Missouri milk supply, but this was never
recommended nor done. The patients close contact had the same symptoms
and the CDC even claimed that they likely had the same source for
infection, and they still did not test the milk supply. The FDA had not
included Missouri in their then current milk product testing, so no one
knew if they had infected milk products. This should not be tolerated
because it has been known from the beginning that cats fed infected raw
milk were infected and had a high mortality rate.

I do not know why the CDC has not been challenged on this. The Utah
health department included the gut infection symptoms in their health
alerts about infection with H5N1. In the review paper that I put up
about the past European and Asian H5N1 infections noted that the gut
infection (diarrhea) was due to drinking infected goose blood, and gut
infection is also noted in dairy cattle. Utah included diarrhea among
their symptoms, but the CDC refuses to acknowledge it.

The FDA is retesting the milk supply, but they are doing it on a
voluntary basis which is stupid. They need to go in and test the milk
at multiple milk processing plants in states with current infections
like Utah and California. They need to test the milk as it comes out of
the trucks and as it comes out of pasteurization, and they need to try
to culture virus from the milk at both testing points. They need to
test all the pasteurization methods. The CDC had found the 30 minute
treatment to be effective, but virus survived the 15 to 20 second 72
degree pasteurization method.

What could possibly be reason enough to ignore reality and do what the
USDA, CDC, and FDA are currently doing? It seems to be willful
stupidity because they do not want to know what they will find.

One note is that the CDC's lab update claims that 3 of the 11 Washington
poultry workers had a virus with a drug resistance mutation that made
the antiviral oseltamivir less effective.

There was another drug resistance mutation, but it was to a drug that
isn't used in the US.

Ron Okimoto

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