California dairy workers infected by H5N1

[RonO]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-infected-bird-flu-latest-human-114482799

Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been infected
by the H5N1 dairy virus. Both were dairy workers. It was expected
because California has had the highest herd detection rate because they
have been tracking dairy worker contacts from infected herds, and have
been identifying infected herds before the dairy farmers had detected
symptoms. It has been likely that dairy workers were spreading the
virus to poultry farms since the beginnings in Texas. The virus only is
infectious off clothing or skin for less than 30 minutes, and they knew
that poultry farms and states like Kansas did not get infected cattle.
Infected dairy workers have likely been spreading the virus from the
beginning.

California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only tracking
their contacts. These two had the eye infection symptoms, and were tested.

The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection is low,
but the more herds infected the more humans will be infected, and the
greater the chance that the virus will mutate into something much worse.
They are claiming that this isn't evidence for person to person
transmission, but that isn't the major issue with infected herds. It is
the virus evolving to better infect humans that is the issue that they
should be trying to control, and the CDC refuses to do anything about that.

California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly as
possible, and they are using possible human transmission to other farms
to do it, and it is obviously working. Over 50 herds have been detected
nearly all in the last couple weeks.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-infected-
bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been infected
by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It was expected
because California has had the highest herd detection rate because they
have been tracking dairy worker contacts from infected herds, and have
been identifying infected herds before the dairy farmers had detected
symptoms.  It has been likely that dairy workers were spreading the
virus to poultry farms since the beginnings in Texas.  The virus only is
infectious off clothing or skin for less than 30 minutes, and they knew
that poultry farms and states like Kansas did not get infected cattle.
Infected dairy workers have likely been spreading the virus from the
beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only tracking
their contacts.  These two had the eye infection symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection is low,
but the more herds infected the more humans will be infected, and the
greater the chance that the virus will mutate into something much worse.
 They are claiming that this isn't evidence for person to person
transmission, but that isn't the major issue with infected herds.  It is
the virus evolving to better infect humans that is the issue that they
should be trying to control, and the CDC refuses to do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly as
possible, and they are using possible human transmission to other farms
to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds have been detected
nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam. 47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died. The dairy H5N1 is a
recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North American
strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to cats. In the US
the cats have been dying of brain infections.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-after-contracting-bird-flu-114490246

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-infected-
bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been infected
by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It was expected
because California has had the highest herd detection rate because
they have been tracking dairy worker contacts from infected herds, and
have been identifying infected herds before the dairy farmers had
detected symptoms.  It has been likely that dairy workers were
spreading the virus to poultry farms since the beginnings in Texas.
The virus only is infectious off clothing or skin for less than 30
minutes, and they knew that poultry farms and states like Kansas did
not get infected cattle. Infected dairy workers have likely been
spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only tracking
their contacts.  These two had the eye infection symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection is
low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be infected, and
the greater the chance that the virus will mutate into something much
worse.   They are claiming that this isn't evidence for person to
person transmission, but that isn't the major issue with infected
herds.  It is the virus evolving to better infect humans that is the
issue that they should be trying to control, and the CDC refuses to do
anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly as
possible, and they are using possible human transmission to other
farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds have been
detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1 is a
recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North American
strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to cats.  In the US
the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-after-
contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-california.html

The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case. The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or close
contacts of dairy workers. My take is that the spread from herd to herd
and poultry farms can be explained by an infection rate of around than
5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado poultry workers (6 of them)
were infected at the same farm dealing with the dairy virus infecting a
layer flock. These poultry workers were wearing protective gear, but it
wasn't enough. The dairy virus seems to infect the patients eyes, so
you pretty much need to wear a gas mask like face protector to keep from
getting infected.

As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they refuse
to identify all the infected herds so that the people will know when
they should wear the protective gear.

The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to admit
that they have been wrong for months. They never started contact
tracing, and testing dairy workers. They never attempted to identify
all the infected herds even though their advice to dairy workers about
wearing protective gear depended on identifying infected herds.
California has demonstrated that contact tracing works in detecting
infected herds even if the dairy workers are not tested. They have
known that more states had infected herds, but refused to start testing
in those states. It has been obvious since May that Florida had
infected herds. Positive dairy products were produced in Florida (FDA
testing) even though Florida is several states away from Carolina and
Texas (states known to have infected herds) and the CDC's own waste
water data indicated that some Florida counties had exceptionally high
levels of influenza in their waste water. No one went to those counties
to test the dairies, nor track back the milk source of the positive
dairy plant that produced the positive dairy products. Dairy workers
have been exposed to the virus in Florida, at least, since May and they
are not testing, nor are they requiring protective gear to protect the
dairy workers from being infected. Florida is just one of the states
that has not admitted to having infected herds at this time.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It was
expected because California has had the highest herd detection rate
because they have been tracking dairy worker contacts from infected
herds, and have been identifying infected herds before the dairy
farmers had detected symptoms.  It has been likely that dairy workers
were spreading the virus to poultry farms since the beginnings in
Texas. The virus only is infectious off clothing or skin for less
than 30 minutes, and they knew that poultry farms and states like
Kansas did not get infected cattle. Infected dairy workers have
likely been spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only tracking
their contacts.  These two had the eye infection symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection is
low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be infected,
and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate into something
much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't evidence for person
to person transmission, but that isn't the major issue with infected
herds.  It is the virus evolving to better infect humans that is the
issue that they should be trying to control, and the CDC refuses to
do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly as
possible, and they are using possible human transmission to other
farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds have been
detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1 is a
recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North American
strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to cats.  In the US
the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-after-
contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or close
contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from herd to herd
and poultry farms can be explained by an infection rate of around than
5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado poultry workers (6 of them)
were infected at the same farm dealing with the dairy virus infecting a
layer flock.  These poultry workers were wearing protective gear, but it
wasn't enough.  The dairy virus seems to infect the patients eyes, so
you pretty much need to wear a gas mask like face protector to keep from
getting infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they refuse
to identify all the infected herds so that the people will know when
they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to admit
that they have been wrong for months.  They never started contact
tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted to identify
all the infected herds even though their advice to dairy workers about
wearing protective gear depended on identifying infected herds.
California has demonstrated that contact tracing works in detecting
infected herds even if the dairy workers are not tested.  They have
known that more states had infected herds, but refused to start testing
in those states.  It has been obvious since May that Florida had
infected herds.  Positive dairy products were produced in Florida (FDA
testing) even though Florida is several states away from Carolina and
Texas (states known to have infected herds) and the CDC's own waste
water data indicated that some Florida counties had exceptionally high
levels of influenza in their waste water.  No one went to those counties
to test the dairies, nor track back the milk source of the positive
dairy plant that produced the positive dairy products.  Dairy workers
have been exposed to the virus in Florida, at least, since May and they
are not testing, nor are they requiring protective gear to protect the
dairy workers from being infected.  Florida is just one of the states
that has not admitted to having infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-bird-flu-shot/story?id=114502971

The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started in
producing a flu vaccine that includes H5. The latest Missouri case
indicates that this is wasted money. That patient had an H5 gene with 2
amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces neutralizing
ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold. The CDC is currently allowing
the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy workers, and the virus
is obviously mutating. What we will need is a vaccine that works
against the version of the virus that eventually adapts to better infect
humans.

They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying to
limit the spread of the virus from the beginning. California indicates
that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing them can
identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact tracing, nor
a testing program for dairy workers. Infected dairy workers have likely
been the primary vector for spreading the dairy virus to other herds and
poultry farms. As the virus spread it mutates, so any attempt to make a
vaccine at this time will likely fall short of making an effective
vaccine against what will eventually become the next pandemic virus.

Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas, and
it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds by dairy
workers. The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them that it was
common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy farm, and some
of them worked at poultry farms. Michigan lost several very large
flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy workers likely infected
the first flock while the other flocks shared poultry workers.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It was
expected because California has had the highest herd detection rate
because they have been tracking dairy worker contacts from infected
herds, and have been identifying infected herds before the dairy
farmers had detected symptoms.  It has been likely that dairy
workers were spreading the virus to poultry farms since the
beginnings in Texas. The virus only is infectious off clothing or
skin for less than 30 minutes, and they knew that poultry farms and
states like Kansas did not get infected cattle. Infected dairy
workers have likely been spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only
tracking their contacts.  These two had the eye infection symptoms,
and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection is
low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be infected,
and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate into something
much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't evidence for person
to person transmission, but that isn't the major issue with infected
herds.  It is the virus evolving to better infect humans that is the
issue that they should be trying to control, and the CDC refuses to
do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly as
possible, and they are using possible human transmission to other
farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds have
been detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1 is a
recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North American
strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to cats.  In the US
the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-after-
contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-
california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or
close contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from herd
to herd and poultry farms can be explained by an infection rate of
around than 5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado poultry workers
(6 of them) were infected at the same farm dealing with the dairy
virus infecting a layer flock.  These poultry workers were wearing
protective gear, but it wasn't enough.  The dairy virus seems to
infect the patients eyes, so you pretty much need to wear a gas mask
like face protector to keep from getting infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they
refuse to identify all the infected herds so that the people will know
when they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to
admit that they have been wrong for months.  They never started
contact tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted to
identify all the infected herds even though their advice to dairy
workers about wearing protective gear depended on identifying infected
herds. California has demonstrated that contact tracing works in
detecting infected herds even if the dairy workers are not tested.
They have known that more states had infected herds, but refused to
start testing in those states.  It has been obvious since May that
Florida had infected herds.  Positive dairy products were produced in
Florida (FDA testing) even though Florida is several states away from
Carolina and Texas (states known to have infected herds) and the CDC's
own waste water data indicated that some Florida counties had
exceptionally high levels of influenza in their waste water.  No one
went to those counties to test the dairies, nor track back the milk
source of the positive dairy plant that produced the positive dairy
products.  Dairy workers have been exposed to the virus in Florida, at
least, since May and they are not testing, nor are they requiring
protective gear to protect the dairy workers from being infected.
Florida is just one of the states that has not admitted to having
infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-bird-
flu-shot/story?id=114502971
The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started in
producing a flu vaccine that includes H5.  The latest Missouri case
indicates that this is wasted money.  That patient had an H5 gene with 2
amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces neutralizing
ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold.  The CDC is currently allowing
the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy workers, and the virus
is obviously mutating.  What we will need is a vaccine that works
against the version of the virus that eventually adapts to better infect
humans.
They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying to
limit the spread of the virus from the beginning.  California indicates
that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing them can
identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact tracing, nor
a testing program for dairy workers.  Infected dairy workers have likely
been the primary vector for spreading the dairy virus to other herds and
poultry farms.  As the virus spread it mutates, so any attempt to make a
vaccine at this time will likely fall short of making an effective
vaccine against what will eventually become the next pandemic virus.
Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas, and
it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds by dairy
workers.  The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them that it was
common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy farm, and some
of them worked at poultry farms.  Michigan lost several very large
flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy workers likely infected
the first flock while the other flocks shared poultry workers.
Ron Okimoto

Second attempt to send:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/health/bird-flu-california-dairy-farms/index.html

A third dairy worker in California is believed to have been infected by
the dairy virus. The CDC is obfuscating the issue instead of deal with
the fact that dairy worker infections have likely always been more
common than they have detected because they never bothered to test the
workers like they have been doing in California.

A Brown University pandemic specialist is claiming that dairy worker
infections are more of a problem than the CDC is claiming, and that more
should be done to prevent dairy worker infections, but the CDC never
started contact tracing and worker and contact testing. There was never
an attempt to identify all the infected herds and try to limit dairy
worker exposure.

California is also reporting that the H5N1 dairy influenza seems to have
become more virulent. Initially herds were reporting 10% of the herd
infected at anyone time and less than 2% mortality, but in California
they have 50% of the herd infected and 10 to 15% of the cows are dying.

This should be enough to get the USDA out of their denial stupidity and
get them to start to identify all the infected herds so that they can be
isolated to limit the spread of the virus. They need to keep dairy
workers on infected farms from spreading the virus to other farms. In
order to do this they have to identify the infected herds or start to
restrict all dairy worker and their close contacts movements.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It was
expected because California has had the highest herd detection rate
because they have been tracking dairy worker contacts from infected
herds, and have been identifying infected herds before the dairy
farmers had detected symptoms.  It has been likely that dairy
workers were spreading the virus to poultry farms since the
beginnings in Texas. The virus only is infectious off clothing or
skin for less than 30 minutes, and they knew that poultry farms and
states like Kansas did not get infected cattle. Infected dairy
workers have likely been spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only
tracking their contacts.  These two had the eye infection symptoms,
and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection is
low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be infected,
and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate into
something much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't evidence
for person to person transmission, but that isn't the major issue
with infected herds.  It is the virus evolving to better infect
humans that is the issue that they should be trying to control, and
the CDC refuses to do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly as
possible, and they are using possible human transmission to other
farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds have
been detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1 is
a recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North American
strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to cats.  In the
US the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-after-
contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-
california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or
close contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from
herd to herd and poultry farms can be explained by an infection rate
of around than 5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado poultry
workers (6 of them) were infected at the same farm dealing with the
dairy virus infecting a layer flock.  These poultry workers were
wearing protective gear, but it wasn't enough.  The dairy virus seems
to infect the patients eyes, so you pretty much need to wear a gas
mask like face protector to keep from getting infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they
refuse to identify all the infected herds so that the people will
know when they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to
admit that they have been wrong for months.  They never started
contact tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted to
identify all the infected herds even though their advice to dairy
workers about wearing protective gear depended on identifying
infected herds. California has demonstrated that contact tracing
works in detecting infected herds even if the dairy workers are not
tested. They have known that more states had infected herds, but
refused to start testing in those states.  It has been obvious since
May that Florida had infected herds.  Positive dairy products were
produced in Florida (FDA testing) even though Florida is several
states away from Carolina and Texas (states known to have infected
herds) and the CDC's own waste water data indicated that some Florida
counties had exceptionally high levels of influenza in their waste
water.  No one went to those counties to test the dairies, nor track
back the milk source of the positive dairy plant that produced the
positive dairy products.  Dairy workers have been exposed to the
virus in Florida, at least, since May and they are not testing, nor
are they requiring protective gear to protect the dairy workers from
being infected. Florida is just one of the states that has not
admitted to having infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-
bird- flu-shot/story?id=114502971
The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started in
producing a flu vaccine that includes H5.  The latest Missouri case
indicates that this is wasted money.  That patient had an H5 gene with
2 amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces neutralizing
ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold.  The CDC is currently allowing
the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy workers, and the
virus is obviously mutating.  What we will need is a vaccine that
works against the version of the virus that eventually adapts to
better infect humans.
They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying to
limit the spread of the virus from the beginning.  California
indicates that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing them
can identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact
tracing, nor a testing program for dairy workers.  Infected dairy
workers have likely been the primary vector for spreading the dairy
virus to other herds and poultry farms.  As the virus spread it
mutates, so any attempt to make a vaccine at this time will likely
fall short of making an effective vaccine against what will eventually
become the next pandemic virus.
Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas, and
it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds by dairy
workers.  The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them that it was
common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy farm, and some
of them worked at poultry farms.  Michigan lost several very large
flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy workers likely infected
the first flock while the other flocks shared poultry workers.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/health/bird-flu-california-dairy-farms/
index.html
A third dairy worker in California is believed to have been infected by
the dairy virus.  The CDC is obfuscating the issue instead of deal with
the fact that dairy worker infections have likely always been more
common than they have detected because they never bothered to test the
workers like they have been doing in California.
A Brown University pandemic specialist is claiming that dairy worker
infections are more of a problem than the CDC is claiming, and that more
should be done to prevent dairy worker infections, but the CDC never
started contact tracing and worker and contact testing.  There was never
an attempt to identify all the infected herds and try to limit dairy
worker exposure.
California is also reporting that the H5N1 dairy influenza seems to have
become more virulent.  Initially herds were reporting 10% of the herd
infected at anyone time and less than 2% mortality, but in California
they have 50% of the herd infected and 10 to 15% of the cows are dying.
This should be enough to get the USDA out of their denial stupidity and
get them to start to identify all the infected herds so that they can be
isolated to limit the spread of the virus.  They need to keep dairy
workers on infected farms from spreading the virus to other farms.  In
order to do this they have to identify the infected herds or start to
restrict all dairy worker and their close contacts movements.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/mammals.html

The herd count in California pretty much exploded and is now over 80
herds and they have identified the most affected herds of any state so
far (likely because the other states are not really looking for infected
herds). The USDA is now listing 282 herds affected.

The USDA claims to be releasing sequencing results, but they have not
improved their annotation of the accessions, so you can't tell when or
where they were collected. Researchers have been complaining from the
release of the first sequences about the lack of information that makes
the sequences pretty useless for assessing how the virus is spreading
and evolving.

The USDA still refuses to start identifying all the infected herds, and
wants to keep relying on self reporting when that is obviously not working.

California is considering to start to look for infected herds in
counties that have not reported symptoms. They have done pretty well
just tracing dairy worker contacts with other herds, but they think that
the problem is likely spread across the state. All the affected herds
that they have recently detected (over 70 in the last couple weeks)
obviously, also have worker contact issues with more dairies.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It
was expected because California has had the highest herd detection
rate because they have been tracking dairy worker contacts from
infected herds, and have been identifying infected herds before
the dairy farmers had detected symptoms.  It has been likely that
dairy workers were spreading the virus to poultry farms since the
beginnings in Texas. The virus only is infectious off clothing or
skin for less than 30 minutes, and they knew that poultry farms
and states like Kansas did not get infected cattle. Infected dairy
workers have likely been spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only
tracking their contacts.  These two had the eye infection
symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection
is low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be
infected, and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate
into something much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't
evidence for person to person transmission, but that isn't the
major issue with infected herds.  It is the virus evolving to
better infect humans that is the issue that they should be trying
to control, and the CDC refuses to do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly
as possible, and they are using possible human transmission to
other farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds
have been detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1 is
a recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North
American strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to
cats.  In the US the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-
after- contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-
california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or
close contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from
herd to herd and poultry farms can be explained by an infection rate
of around than 5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado poultry
workers (6 of them) were infected at the same farm dealing with the
dairy virus infecting a layer flock.  These poultry workers were
wearing protective gear, but it wasn't enough.  The dairy virus
seems to infect the patients eyes, so you pretty much need to wear a
gas mask like face protector to keep from getting infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they
refuse to identify all the infected herds so that the people will
know when they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to
admit that they have been wrong for months.  They never started
contact tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted to
identify all the infected herds even though their advice to dairy
workers about wearing protective gear depended on identifying
infected herds. California has demonstrated that contact tracing
works in detecting infected herds even if the dairy workers are not
tested. They have known that more states had infected herds, but
refused to start testing in those states.  It has been obvious since
May that Florida had infected herds.  Positive dairy products were
produced in Florida (FDA testing) even though Florida is several
states away from Carolina and Texas (states known to have infected
herds) and the CDC's own waste water data indicated that some
Florida counties had exceptionally high levels of influenza in their
waste water.  No one went to those counties to test the dairies, nor
track back the milk source of the positive dairy plant that produced
the positive dairy products.  Dairy workers have been exposed to the
virus in Florida, at least, since May and they are not testing, nor
are they requiring protective gear to protect the dairy workers from
being infected. Florida is just one of the states that has not
admitted to having infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-
bird- flu-shot/story?id=114502971
The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started in
producing a flu vaccine that includes H5.  The latest Missouri case
indicates that this is wasted money.  That patient had an H5 gene
with 2 amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces
neutralizing ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold.  The CDC is
currently allowing the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy
workers, and the virus is obviously mutating.  What we will need is a
vaccine that works against the version of the virus that eventually
adapts to better infect humans.
They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying
to limit the spread of the virus from the beginning.  California
indicates that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing
them can identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact
tracing, nor a testing program for dairy workers.  Infected dairy
workers have likely been the primary vector for spreading the dairy
virus to other herds and poultry farms.  As the virus spread it
mutates, so any attempt to make a vaccine at this time will likely
fall short of making an effective vaccine against what will
eventually become the next pandemic virus.
Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas,
and it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds by
dairy workers.  The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them that
it was common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy farm,
and some of them worked at poultry farms.  Michigan lost several very
large flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy workers likely
infected the first flock while the other flocks shared poultry workers.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/health/bird-flu-california-dairy-farms/
index.html
A third dairy worker in California is believed to have been infected
by the dairy virus.  The CDC is obfuscating the issue instead of deal
with the fact that dairy worker infections have likely always been
more common than they have detected because they never bothered to
test the workers like they have been doing in California.
A Brown University pandemic specialist is claiming that dairy worker
infections are more of a problem than the CDC is claiming, and that
more should be done to prevent dairy worker infections, but the CDC
never started contact tracing and worker and contact testing.  There
was never an attempt to identify all the infected herds and try to
limit dairy worker exposure.
California is also reporting that the H5N1 dairy influenza seems to
have become more virulent.  Initially herds were reporting 10% of the
herd infected at anyone time and less than 2% mortality, but in
California they have 50% of the herd infected and 10 to 15% of the
cows are dying.
This should be enough to get the USDA out of their denial stupidity
and get them to start to identify all the infected herds so that they
can be isolated to limit the spread of the virus.  They need to keep
dairy workers on infected farms from spreading the virus to other
farms.  In order to do this they have to identify the infected herds
or start to restrict all dairy worker and their close contacts movements.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/mammals.html
The herd count in California pretty much exploded and is now over 80
herds and they have identified the most affected herds of any state so
far (likely because the other states are not really looking for infected
herds).  The USDA is now listing 282 herds affected.
The USDA claims to be releasing sequencing results, but they have not
improved their annotation of the accessions, so you can't tell when or
where they were collected.  Researchers have been complaining from the
release of the first sequences about the lack of information that makes
the sequences pretty useless for assessing how the virus is spreading
and evolving.
The USDA still refuses to start identifying all the infected herds, and
wants to keep relying on self reporting when that is obviously not working.
California is considering to start to look for infected herds in
counties that have not reported symptoms.  They have done pretty well
just tracing dairy worker contacts with other herds, but they think that
the problem is likely spread across the state.  All the affected herds
that they have recently detected (over 70 in the last couple weeks)
obviously, also have worker contact issues with more dairies.
Ron Okimoto

The USDA seems to have 103 California dairy herds given special IDs
(CA103 is listed) as positive for the virus as of Oct 8. California
reported more that likely have to be verified since then. California is
claiming that the 5 Dairy workers infected, all at different farms,
indicates that infection of dairy workers is a real issue considering
how many herds that have been infected, and that it is obviously very
important to get the dairy workers to use protective equipment when
working with the cattle. The CDC is still only recommending use of
protective equipment when working with infected animals, but they never
started testing herds to determine which ones were infected. California
wants all dairy workers to start using protective gear, but have not
made it a requirement at this time. They have been identifying herds by
tracing contacts of dairy workers and bulk milk testing of those herds.
This is something that the CDC and USDA should have been doing from the
beginning, since it is obviously working in identifying a lot of
infected herds.

California was supposed to have fewer dairy workers that worked at
multiple dairies compared to other states because most of the California
dairies are very large and have full time staff. This likely means that
other states with infected herds have severely under reported infected
herds in their states.

Poultry farms in California have started to go down with the dairy
virus, likely (my take is that dairy workers have been a major
transmission vector from the beginning) due to dairy worker
transmission. Some dairy workers also work on poultry farms.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It
was expected because California has had the highest herd
detection rate because they have been tracking dairy worker
contacts from infected herds, and have been identifying infected
herds before the dairy farmers had detected symptoms.  It has
been likely that dairy workers were spreading the virus to
poultry farms since the beginnings in Texas. The virus only is
infectious off clothing or skin for less than 30 minutes, and
they knew that poultry farms and states like Kansas did not get
infected cattle. Infected dairy workers have likely been
spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only
tracking their contacts.  These two had the eye infection
symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection
is low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be
infected, and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate
into something much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't
evidence for person to person transmission, but that isn't the
major issue with infected herds.  It is the virus evolving to
better infect humans that is the issue that they should be trying
to control, and the CDC refuses to do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly
as possible, and they are using possible human transmission to
other farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds
have been detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1
is a recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North
American strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to
cats.  In the US the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-
after- contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-
california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or
close contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from
herd to herd and poultry farms can be explained by an infection
rate of around than 5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado
poultry workers (6 of them) were infected at the same farm dealing
with the dairy virus infecting a layer flock.  These poultry
workers were wearing protective gear, but it wasn't enough.  The
dairy virus seems to infect the patients eyes, so you pretty much
need to wear a gas mask like face protector to keep from getting
infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they
refuse to identify all the infected herds so that the people will
know when they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to
admit that they have been wrong for months.  They never started
contact tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted
to identify all the infected herds even though their advice to
dairy workers about wearing protective gear depended on identifying
infected herds. California has demonstrated that contact tracing
works in detecting infected herds even if the dairy workers are not
tested. They have known that more states had infected herds, but
refused to start testing in those states.  It has been obvious
since May that Florida had infected herds.  Positive dairy products
were produced in Florida (FDA testing) even though Florida is
several states away from Carolina and Texas (states known to have
infected herds) and the CDC's own waste water data indicated that
some Florida counties had exceptionally high levels of influenza in
their waste water.  No one went to those counties to test the
dairies, nor track back the milk source of the positive dairy plant
that produced the positive dairy products.  Dairy workers have been
exposed to the virus in Florida, at least, since May and they are
not testing, nor are they requiring protective gear to protect the
dairy workers from being infected. Florida is just one of the
states that has not admitted to having infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-
bird- flu-shot/story?id=114502971
The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started in
producing a flu vaccine that includes H5.  The latest Missouri case
indicates that this is wasted money.  That patient had an H5 gene
with 2 amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces
neutralizing ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold.  The CDC is
currently allowing the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy
workers, and the virus is obviously mutating.  What we will need is
a vaccine that works against the version of the virus that
eventually adapts to better infect humans.
They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying
to limit the spread of the virus from the beginning.  California
indicates that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing
them can identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact
tracing, nor a testing program for dairy workers.  Infected dairy
workers have likely been the primary vector for spreading the dairy
virus to other herds and poultry farms.  As the virus spread it
mutates, so any attempt to make a vaccine at this time will likely
fall short of making an effective vaccine against what will
eventually become the next pandemic virus.
Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas,
and it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds by
dairy workers.  The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them that
it was common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy farm,
and some of them worked at poultry farms.  Michigan lost several
very large flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy workers
likely infected the first flock while the other flocks shared
poultry workers.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/health/bird-flu-california-dairy-
farms/ index.html
A third dairy worker in California is believed to have been infected
by the dairy virus.  The CDC is obfuscating the issue instead of deal
with the fact that dairy worker infections have likely always been
more common than they have detected because they never bothered to
test the workers like they have been doing in California.
A Brown University pandemic specialist is claiming that dairy worker
infections are more of a problem than the CDC is claiming, and that
more should be done to prevent dairy worker infections, but the CDC
never started contact tracing and worker and contact testing.  There
was never an attempt to identify all the infected herds and try to
limit dairy worker exposure.
California is also reporting that the H5N1 dairy influenza seems to
have become more virulent.  Initially herds were reporting 10% of the
herd infected at anyone time and less than 2% mortality, but in
California they have 50% of the herd infected and 10 to 15% of the
cows are dying.
This should be enough to get the USDA out of their denial stupidity
and get them to start to identify all the infected herds so that they
can be isolated to limit the spread of the virus.  They need to keep
dairy workers on infected farms from spreading the virus to other
farms.  In order to do this they have to identify the infected herds
or start to restrict all dairy worker and their close contacts movements.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/mammals.html
The herd count in California pretty much exploded and is now over 80
herds and they have identified the most affected herds of any state so
far (likely because the other states are not really looking for
infected herds).  The USDA is now listing 282 herds affected.
The USDA claims to be releasing sequencing results, but they have not
improved their annotation of the accessions, so you can't tell when or
where they were collected.  Researchers have been complaining from the
release of the first sequences about the lack of information that
makes the sequences pretty useless for assessing how the virus is
spreading and evolving.
The USDA still refuses to start identifying all the infected herds,
and wants to keep relying on self reporting when that is obviously not
working.
California is considering to start to look for infected herds in
counties that have not reported symptoms.  They have done pretty well
just tracing dairy worker contacts with other herds, but they think
that the problem is likely spread across the state.  All the affected
herds that they have recently detected (over 70 in the last couple
weeks) obviously, also have worker contact issues with more dairies.
Ron Okimoto

The USDA seems to have 103 California dairy herds given special IDs
(CA103 is listed) as positive for the virus as of Oct 8.  California
reported more that likely have to be verified since then.  California is
claiming that the 5 Dairy workers infected, all at different farms,
indicates that infection of dairy workers is a real issue considering
how many herds that have been infected, and that it is obviously  very
important to get the dairy workers to use protective equipment when
working with the cattle.  The CDC is still only recommending use of
protective equipment when working with infected animals, but they never
started testing herds to determine which ones were infected.  California
wants all dairy workers to start using protective gear, but have not
made it a requirement at this time.  They have been identifying herds by
tracing contacts of dairy workers and bulk milk testing of those herds.
This is something that the CDC and USDA should have been doing from the
beginning, since it is obviously working in identifying a lot of
infected herds.
California was supposed to have fewer dairy workers that worked at
multiple dairies compared to other states because most of the California
dairies are very large and have full time staff.  This likely means that
other states with infected herds have severely under reported infected
herds in their states.
Poultry farms in California have started to go down with the dairy
virus, likely (my take is that dairy workers have been a major
transmission vector from the beginning) due to dairy worker
transmission.  Some dairy workers also work on poultry farms.
Ron Okimoto

Third attempt to post:

https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/news/nation/california/2024/10/09/third-human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-californias-central-valley/75590749007/

This link was updated today and claims that a 6th dairy worker has been
found to be infected.

QUOTE:
There are no known links between the six confirmed cases, which suggests
there is widespread transmission among dairy herds and the infected
cattle pose risks to people working near them.
END QUOTE:

This is something that the CDC has never admitted even after 6 poultry
workers on the same farm got infected by the dairy virus, and the
poultry workers were using protective gear. The 6th case has only been
submitted to the USDA and CDC for confirmation, but has been determined
to be H5 by the California Health people.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It
was expected because California has had the highest herd
detection rate because they have been tracking dairy worker
contacts from infected herds, and have been identifying infected
herds before the dairy farmers had detected symptoms.  It has
been likely that dairy workers were spreading the virus to
poultry farms since the beginnings in Texas. The virus only is
infectious off clothing or skin for less than 30 minutes, and
they knew that poultry farms and states like Kansas did not get
infected cattle. Infected dairy workers have likely been
spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only
tracking their contacts.  These two had the eye infection
symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection
is low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be
infected, and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate
into something much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't
evidence for person to person transmission, but that isn't the
major issue with infected herds.  It is the virus evolving to
better infect humans that is the issue that they should be
trying to control, and the CDC refuses to do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly
as possible, and they are using possible human transmission to
other farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50
herds have been detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1
is a recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North
American strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to
cats.  In the US the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-
after- contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-
california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or
close contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from
herd to herd and poultry farms can be explained by an infection
rate of around than 5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado
poultry workers (6 of them) were infected at the same farm dealing
with the dairy virus infecting a layer flock.  These poultry
workers were wearing protective gear, but it wasn't enough.  The
dairy virus seems to infect the patients eyes, so you pretty much
need to wear a gas mask like face protector to keep from getting
infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they
refuse to identify all the infected herds so that the people will
know when they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to
admit that they have been wrong for months.  They never started
contact tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted
to identify all the infected herds even though their advice to
dairy workers about wearing protective gear depended on
identifying infected herds. California has demonstrated that
contact tracing works in detecting infected herds even if the
dairy workers are not tested. They have known that more states had
infected herds, but refused to start testing in those states.  It
has been obvious since May that Florida had infected herds.
Positive dairy products were produced in Florida (FDA testing)
even though Florida is several states away from Carolina and Texas
(states known to have infected herds) and the CDC's own waste
water data indicated that some Florida counties had exceptionally
high levels of influenza in their waste water.  No one went to
those counties to test the dairies, nor track back the milk source
of the positive dairy plant that produced the positive dairy
products.  Dairy workers have been exposed to the virus in
Florida, at least, since May and they are not testing, nor are
they requiring protective gear to protect the dairy workers from
being infected. Florida is just one of the states that has not
admitted to having infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-
bird- flu-shot/story?id=114502971
The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started
in producing a flu vaccine that includes H5.  The latest Missouri
case indicates that this is wasted money.  That patient had an H5
gene with 2 amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces
neutralizing ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold.  The CDC is
currently allowing the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy
workers, and the virus is obviously mutating.  What we will need is
a vaccine that works against the version of the virus that
eventually adapts to better infect humans.
They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying
to limit the spread of the virus from the beginning.  California
indicates that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing
them can identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact
tracing, nor a testing program for dairy workers.  Infected dairy
workers have likely been the primary vector for spreading the dairy
virus to other herds and poultry farms.  As the virus spread it
mutates, so any attempt to make a vaccine at this time will likely
fall short of making an effective vaccine against what will
eventually become the next pandemic virus.
Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas,
and it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds
by dairy workers.  The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them
that it was common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy
farm, and some of them worked at poultry farms.  Michigan lost
several very large flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy
workers likely infected the first flock while the other flocks
shared poultry workers.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/health/bird-flu-california-dairy-
farms/ index.html
A third dairy worker in California is believed to have been infected
by the dairy virus.  The CDC is obfuscating the issue instead of
deal with the fact that dairy worker infections have likely always
been more common than they have detected because they never bothered
to test the workers like they have been doing in California.
A Brown University pandemic specialist is claiming that dairy worker
infections are more of a problem than the CDC is claiming, and that
more should be done to prevent dairy worker infections, but the CDC
never started contact tracing and worker and contact testing.  There
was never an attempt to identify all the infected herds and try to
limit dairy worker exposure.
California is also reporting that the H5N1 dairy influenza seems to
have become more virulent.  Initially herds were reporting 10% of
the herd infected at anyone time and less than 2% mortality, but in
California they have 50% of the herd infected and 10 to 15% of the
cows are dying.
This should be enough to get the USDA out of their denial stupidity
and get them to start to identify all the infected herds so that
they can be isolated to limit the spread of the virus.  They need to
keep dairy workers on infected farms from spreading the virus to
other farms.  In order to do this they have to identify the infected
herds or start to restrict all dairy worker and their close contacts
movements.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/mammals.html
The herd count in California pretty much exploded and is now over 80
herds and they have identified the most affected herds of any state
so far (likely because the other states are not really looking for
infected herds).  The USDA is now listing 282 herds affected.
The USDA claims to be releasing sequencing results, but they have not
improved their annotation of the accessions, so you can't tell when
or where they were collected.  Researchers have been complaining from
the release of the first sequences about the lack of information that
makes the sequences pretty useless for assessing how the virus is
spreading and evolving.
The USDA still refuses to start identifying all the infected herds,
and wants to keep relying on self reporting when that is obviously
not working.
California is considering to start to look for infected herds in
counties that have not reported symptoms.  They have done pretty well
just tracing dairy worker contacts with other herds, but they think
that the problem is likely spread across the state.  All the affected
herds that they have recently detected (over 70 in the last couple
weeks) obviously, also have worker contact issues with more dairies.
Ron Okimoto

The USDA seems to have 103 California dairy herds given special IDs
(CA103 is listed) as positive for the virus as of Oct 8.  California
reported more that likely have to be verified since then.  California
is claiming that the 5 Dairy workers infected, all at different farms,
indicates that infection of dairy workers is a real issue considering
how many herds that have been infected, and that it is obviously  very
important to get the dairy workers to use protective equipment when
working with the cattle.  The CDC is still only recommending use of
protective equipment when working with infected animals, but they
never started testing herds to determine which ones were infected.
California wants all dairy workers to start using protective gear, but
have not made it a requirement at this time.  They have been
identifying herds by tracing contacts of dairy workers and bulk milk
testing of those herds. This is something that the CDC and USDA should
have been doing from the beginning, since it is obviously working in
identifying a lot of infected herds.
California was supposed to have fewer dairy workers that worked at
multiple dairies compared to other states because most of the
California dairies are very large and have full time staff.  This
likely means that other states with infected herds have severely under
reported infected herds in their states.
Poultry farms in California have started to go down with the dairy
virus, likely (my take is that dairy workers have been a major
transmission vector from the beginning) due to dairy worker
transmission.  Some dairy workers also work on poultry farms.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/news/nation/
california/2024/10/09/third-human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-
californias-central-valley/75590749007/
This link was updated today and claims that a 6th dairy worker has been
found to be infected.
There are no known links between the six confirmed cases, which suggests
there is widespread transmission among dairy herds and the infected
cattle pose risks to people working near them.
This is something that the CDC has never admitted even after 6 poultry
workers on the same farm got infected by the dairy virus, and the
poultry workers were using protective gear.  The 6th case has only been
submitted to the USDA and CDC for confirmation, but has been determined
to be H5 by the California Health people.
Ron Okimoto

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You might want to check the thread "misc.legal.moderated" starting
for an explanation and the current status of this issue.

Repost from Misc.legal.moderated. Previous posts in the thread
indicated that there was some issue with how eternal september was
handling posts to moderated groups. Something about resetting the
relays. TO has a sort of moderation. Is eternal september having
issues intearcting with the TO server?

REPOST:
Hello friends.


Somehow DNS within Postfix got wedged on
mod-relay-1.kamens.us for several days. I didn't realize this
was happening because my system monitors didn't detect the
issue. I found out about it this morning when Postfix somehow
got unwedged and I got several days worth of delayed logwatch
emails.


I will investigate what happened and try to figure out how to
monitor for this moving forward so it will be detected more
quickly if it happens again.


In any case things should be working fine now.
END REPOST:

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It
was expected because California has had the highest herd
detection rate because they have been tracking dairy worker
contacts from infected herds, and have been identifying infected
herds before the dairy farmers had detected symptoms.  It has
been likely that dairy workers were spreading the virus to
poultry farms since the beginnings in Texas. The virus only is
infectious off clothing or skin for less than 30 minutes, and
they knew that poultry farms and states like Kansas did not get
infected cattle. Infected dairy workers have likely been
spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only
tracking their contacts.  These two had the eye infection
symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection
is low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be
infected, and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate
into something much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't
evidence for person to person transmission, but that isn't the
major issue with infected herds.  It is the virus evolving to
better infect humans that is the issue that they should be trying
to control, and the CDC refuses to do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly
as possible, and they are using possible human transmission to
other farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds
have been detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1
is a recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North
American strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to
cats.  In the US the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-
after- contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-
california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or
close contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from
herd to herd and poultry farms can be explained by an infection
rate of around than 5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado
poultry workers (6 of them) were infected at the same farm dealing
with the dairy virus infecting a layer flock.  These poultry
workers were wearing protective gear, but it wasn't enough.  The
dairy virus seems to infect the patients eyes, so you pretty much
need to wear a gas mask like face protector to keep from getting
infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they
refuse to identify all the infected herds so that the people will
know when they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to
admit that they have been wrong for months.  They never started
contact tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted
to identify all the infected herds even though their advice to
dairy workers about wearing protective gear depended on identifying
infected herds. California has demonstrated that contact tracing
works in detecting infected herds even if the dairy workers are not
tested. They have known that more states had infected herds, but
refused to start testing in those states.  It has been obvious
since May that Florida had infected herds.  Positive dairy products
were produced in Florida (FDA testing) even though Florida is
several states away from Carolina and Texas (states known to have
infected herds) and the CDC's own waste water data indicated that
some Florida counties had exceptionally high levels of influenza in
their waste water.  No one went to those counties to test the
dairies, nor track back the milk source of the positive dairy plant
that produced the positive dairy products.  Dairy workers have been
exposed to the virus in Florida, at least, since May and they are
not testing, nor are they requiring protective gear to protect the
dairy workers from being infected. Florida is just one of the
states that has not admitted to having infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-
bird- flu-shot/story?id=114502971
The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started in
producing a flu vaccine that includes H5.  The latest Missouri case
indicates that this is wasted money.  That patient had an H5 gene
with 2 amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces
neutralizing ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold.  The CDC is
currently allowing the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy
workers, and the virus is obviously mutating.  What we will need is
a vaccine that works against the version of the virus that
eventually adapts to better infect humans.
They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying
to limit the spread of the virus from the beginning.  California
indicates that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing
them can identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact
tracing, nor a testing program for dairy workers.  Infected dairy
workers have likely been the primary vector for spreading the dairy
virus to other herds and poultry farms.  As the virus spread it
mutates, so any attempt to make a vaccine at this time will likely
fall short of making an effective vaccine against what will
eventually become the next pandemic virus.
Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas,
and it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds by
dairy workers.  The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them that
it was common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy farm,
and some of them worked at poultry farms.  Michigan lost several
very large flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy workers
likely infected the first flock while the other flocks shared
poultry workers.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/health/bird-flu-california-dairy-
farms/ index.html
A third dairy worker in California is believed to have been infected
by the dairy virus.  The CDC is obfuscating the issue instead of deal
with the fact that dairy worker infections have likely always been
more common than they have detected because they never bothered to
test the workers like they have been doing in California.
A Brown University pandemic specialist is claiming that dairy worker
infections are more of a problem than the CDC is claiming, and that
more should be done to prevent dairy worker infections, but the CDC
never started contact tracing and worker and contact testing.  There
was never an attempt to identify all the infected herds and try to
limit dairy worker exposure.
California is also reporting that the H5N1 dairy influenza seems to
have become more virulent.  Initially herds were reporting 10% of the
herd infected at anyone time and less than 2% mortality, but in
California they have 50% of the herd infected and 10 to 15% of the
cows are dying.
This should be enough to get the USDA out of their denial stupidity
and get them to start to identify all the infected herds so that they
can be isolated to limit the spread of the virus.  They need to keep
dairy workers on infected farms from spreading the virus to other
farms.  In order to do this they have to identify the infected herds
or start to restrict all dairy worker and their close contacts movements.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/mammals.html
The herd count in California pretty much exploded and is now over 80
herds and they have identified the most affected herds of any state so
far (likely because the other states are not really looking for
infected herds).  The USDA is now listing 282 herds affected.
The USDA claims to be releasing sequencing results, but they have not
improved their annotation of the accessions, so you can't tell when or
where they were collected.  Researchers have been complaining from the
release of the first sequences about the lack of information that
makes the sequences pretty useless for assessing how the virus is
spreading and evolving.
The USDA still refuses to start identifying all the infected herds,
and wants to keep relying on self reporting when that is obviously not
working.
California is considering to start to look for infected herds in
counties that have not reported symptoms.  They have done pretty well
just tracing dairy worker contacts with other herds, but they think
that the problem is likely spread across the state.  All the affected
herds that they have recently detected (over 70 in the last couple
weeks) obviously, also have worker contact issues with more dairies.
Ron Okimoto

The USDA seems to have 103 California dairy herds given special IDs
(CA103 is listed) as positive for the virus as of Oct 8.  California
reported more that likely have to be verified since then.  California is
claiming that the 5 Dairy workers infected, all at different farms,
indicates that infection of dairy workers is a real issue considering
how many herds that have been infected, and that it is obviously  very
important to get the dairy workers to use protective equipment when
working with the cattle.  The CDC is still only recommending use of
protective equipment when working with infected animals, but they never
started testing herds to determine which ones were infected.  California
wants all dairy workers to start using protective gear, but have not
made it a requirement at this time.  They have been identifying herds by
tracing contacts of dairy workers and bulk milk testing of those herds.
This is something that the CDC and USDA should have been doing from the
beginning, since it is obviously working in identifying a lot of
infected herds.
California was supposed to have fewer dairy workers that worked at
multiple dairies compared to other states because most of the California
dairies are very large and have full time staff.  This likely means that
other states with infected herds have severely under reported infected
herds in their states.
Poultry farms in California have started to go down with the dairy
virus, likely (my take is that dairy workers have been a major
transmission vector from the beginning) due to dairy worker
transmission.  Some dairy workers also work on poultry farms.
Ron Okimoto

Second attempt to post:

https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/news/nation/california/2024/10/09/third-human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-californias-central-valley/75590749007/

This link was updated today and claims that a 6th dairy worker has been
found to be infected.

QUOTE:
There are no known links between the six confirmed cases, which suggests
there is widespread transmission among dairy herds and the infected
cattle pose risks to people working near them.
END QUOTE:

This is something that the CDC has never admitted even after 6 poultry
workers on the same farm got infected by the dairy virus, and the
poultry workers were using protective gear. The 6th case has only been
submitted to the USDA and CDC for confirmation, but has been determined
to be H5 by the California Health people.

Ron Okimoto

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-
infected- bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been
infected by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It
was expected because California has had the highest herd
detection rate because they have been tracking dairy worker
contacts from infected herds, and have been identifying infected
herds before the dairy farmers had detected symptoms.  It has
been likely that dairy workers were spreading the virus to
poultry farms since the beginnings in Texas. The virus only is
infectious off clothing or skin for less than 30 minutes, and
they knew that poultry farms and states like Kansas did not get
infected cattle. Infected dairy workers have likely been
spreading the virus from the beginning.
California was not testing the dairy workers, they were only
tracking their contacts.  These two had the eye infection
symptoms, and were tested.
The CDC is still claiming the danger of human to human infection
is low, but the more herds infected the more humans will be
infected, and the greater the chance that the virus will mutate
into something much worse.   They are claiming that this isn't
evidence for person to person transmission, but that isn't the
major issue with infected herds.  It is the virus evolving to
better infect humans that is the issue that they should be trying
to control, and the CDC refuses to do anything about that.
California is trying to detect all the infected herds as quickly
as possible, and they are using possible human transmission to
other farms to do it, and it is obviously working.  Over 50 herds
have been detected nearly all in the last couple weeks.
Ron Okimoto

The Asian strain of H5N1 killed dozens of big cats at two zoos in
Vietnam.  47 tigers, 3 lions and 1 panther died.  The dairy H5N1
is a recombinant virus and half of it's genome is from a North
American strain of Avian influenza, but it still is lethal to
cats.  In the US the cats have been dying of brain infections.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/dozens-zoo-tigers-die-
after- contracting-bird-flu-114490246
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/s1003-birdflu-case-
california.html
The CDC is still claiming that human infections are rare, but that
likely was never the case.  The CDC still has tested less than 250
people when thousands have been in contact with infected cattle or
close contacts of dairy workers.  My take is that the spread from
herd to herd and poultry farms can be explained by an infection
rate of around than 5% among dairy workers, but the Colorado
poultry workers (6 of them) were infected at the same farm dealing
with the dairy virus infecting a layer flock.  These poultry
workers were wearing protective gear, but it wasn't enough.  The
dairy virus seems to infect the patients eyes, so you pretty much
need to wear a gas mask like face protector to keep from getting
infected.
As stupid as it may be the CDC is still advising people to wear
protective equipment when dealing with infected animals, but they
refuse to identify all the infected herds so that the people will
know when they should wear the protective gear.
The CDC is really supporting their failing program, and refuse to
admit that they have been wrong for months.  They never started
contact tracing, and testing dairy workers.  They never attempted
to identify all the infected herds even though their advice to
dairy workers about wearing protective gear depended on identifying
infected herds. California has demonstrated that contact tracing
works in detecting infected herds even if the dairy workers are not
tested. They have known that more states had infected herds, but
refused to start testing in those states.  It has been obvious
since May that Florida had infected herds.  Positive dairy products
were produced in Florida (FDA testing) even though Florida is
several states away from Carolina and Texas (states known to have
infected herds) and the CDC's own waste water data indicated that
some Florida counties had exceptionally high levels of influenza in
their waste water.  No one went to those counties to test the
dairies, nor track back the milk source of the positive dairy plant
that produced the positive dairy products.  Dairy workers have been
exposed to the virus in Florida, at least, since May and they are
not testing, nor are they requiring protective gear to protect the
dairy workers from being infected. Florida is just one of the
states that has not admitted to having infected herds at this time.
Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-72m-vaccine-manufacturers-advance-
bird- flu-shot/story?id=114502971
The US is putting 72 million into getting pharm companies started in
producing a flu vaccine that includes H5.  The latest Missouri case
indicates that this is wasted money.  That patient had an H5 gene
with 2 amino acid substitutions in it that supposedly reduces
neutralizing ability of H5 antigens 10 to 100 fold.  The CDC is
currently allowing the virus to spread among dairy cattle and dairy
workers, and the virus is obviously mutating.  What we will need is
a vaccine that works against the version of the virus that
eventually adapts to better infect humans.
They should have been identifying all the infected herds and trying
to limit the spread of the virus from the beginning.  California
indicates that contact tracing dairy workers even without testing
them can identify infected herds, but the CDC never started contact
tracing, nor a testing program for dairy workers.  Infected dairy
workers have likely been the primary vector for spreading the dairy
virus to other herds and poultry farms.  As the virus spread it
mutates, so any attempt to make a vaccine at this time will likely
fall short of making an effective vaccine against what will
eventually become the next pandemic virus.
Really, only two herds in Michigan got infected cattle from Texas,
and it was likely spread to multiple counties and dozens of herds by
dairy workers.  The Michigan survey of dairy workers told them that
it was common for dairy workers to work at more than one dairy farm,
and some of them worked at poultry farms.  Michigan lost several
very large flocks of layers to the dairy virus, and dairy workers
likely infected the first flock while the other flocks shared
poultry workers.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/health/bird-flu-california-dairy-
farms/ index.html
A third dairy worker in California is believed to have been infected
by the dairy virus.  The CDC is obfuscating the issue instead of deal
with the fact that dairy worker infections have likely always been
more common than they have detected because they never bothered to
test the workers like they have been doing in California.
A Brown University pandemic specialist is claiming that dairy worker
infections are more of a problem than the CDC is claiming, and that
more should be done to prevent dairy worker infections, but the CDC
never started contact tracing and worker and contact testing.  There
was never an attempt to identify all the infected herds and try to
limit dairy worker exposure.
California is also reporting that the H5N1 dairy influenza seems to
have become more virulent.  Initially herds were reporting 10% of the
herd infected at anyone time and less than 2% mortality, but in
California they have 50% of the herd infected and 10 to 15% of the
cows are dying.
This should be enough to get the USDA out of their denial stupidity
and get them to start to identify all the infected herds so that they
can be isolated to limit the spread of the virus.  They need to keep
dairy workers on infected farms from spreading the virus to other
farms.  In order to do this they have to identify the infected herds
or start to restrict all dairy worker and their close contacts movements.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/mammals.html
The herd count in California pretty much exploded and is now over 80
herds and they have identified the most affected herds of any state so
far (likely because the other states are not really looking for
infected herds).  The USDA is now listing 282 herds affected.
The USDA claims to be releasing sequencing results, but they have not
improved their annotation of the accessions, so you can't tell when or
where they were collected.  Researchers have been complaining from the
release of the first sequences about the lack of information that
makes the sequences pretty useless for assessing how the virus is
spreading and evolving.
The USDA still refuses to start identifying all the infected herds,
and wants to keep relying on self reporting when that is obviously not
working.
California is considering to start to look for infected herds in
counties that have not reported symptoms.  They have done pretty well
just tracing dairy worker contacts with other herds, but they think
that the problem is likely spread across the state.  All the affected
herds that they have recently detected (over 70 in the last couple
weeks) obviously, also have worker contact issues with more dairies.
Ron Okimoto

The USDA seems to have 103 California dairy herds given special IDs
(CA103 is listed) as positive for the virus as of Oct 8.  California
reported more that likely have to be verified since then.  California is
claiming that the 5 Dairy workers infected, all at different farms,
indicates that infection of dairy workers is a real issue considering
how many herds that have been infected, and that it is obviously  very
important to get the dairy workers to use protective equipment when
working with the cattle.  The CDC is still only recommending use of
protective equipment when working with infected animals, but they never
started testing herds to determine which ones were infected.  California
wants all dairy workers to start using protective gear, but have not
made it a requirement at this time.  They have been identifying herds by
tracing contacts of dairy workers and bulk milk testing of those herds.
This is something that the CDC and USDA should have been doing from the
beginning, since it is obviously working in identifying a lot of
infected herds.
California was supposed to have fewer dairy workers that worked at
multiple dairies compared to other states because most of the California
dairies are very large and have full time staff.  This likely means that
other states with infected herds have severely under reported infected
herds in their states.
Poultry farms in California have started to go down with the dairy
virus, likely (my take is that dairy workers have been a major
transmission vector from the beginning) due to dairy worker
transmission.  Some dairy workers also work on poultry farms.
Ron Okimoto

https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/news/nation/california/2024/10/09/third-human-case-of-bird-flu-detected-in-californias-central-valley/75590749007/

This link was updated today and claims that a 6th dairy worker has been
found to be infected.

QUOTE:
There are no known links between the six confirmed cases, which suggests
there is widespread transmission among dairy herds and the infected
cattle pose risks to people working near them.
END QUOTE:

This is something that the CDC has never admitted even after 6 poultry
workers on the same farm got infected by the dairy virus, and the
poultry workers were using protective gear. The 6th case has only been
submitted to the USDA and CDC for confirmation, but has been determined
to be H5 by the California Health people.

Ron Okimoto

[JTEM]

Post by RonO
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-dairy-workers-infected-
bird-flu-latest-human-114482799
Two California dairy workers have been confirmed to have been infected
by the H5N1 dairy virus.  Both were dairy workers.  It was expected
because California has had the highest herd detection rate

So nobody expected it because of the years-long promotion of Veganism
and the anti meat drive "For the climate?"

Have you never seen the propaganda against meat and diary?

Like how milk is for white supremacists?

Everything comes back to the "Great Reset."