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CDC suppression of information
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RonO
2025-01-14 01:29:51 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html

After the cats likely got infected by the dairy virus by eating infected
meat the CDC has stopped differentiating the B3.13 dairy genotype from
the D1.1 wild bird H5N1. That information has not been released for the
Wisconsin poultry worker.

This is likely to cover up their inept response to the dairy infection,
but is resulting in their treatment of the D1.1 infections as ineptly as
they have treated the dairy infections. The CDC has screwed up by the
numbers since the start of the infection back in March 2024. Even
though they knew that dairy workers were being infected (they had
already isolated live virus from the first infected dairy worker, and
cultured it) they refused to start dairy worker testing and contact
tracing. It looks like the virus has mainly been spread by dairy
workers shared between farms, and that also work on commercial poultry
farms. They have known this since June 2024 with the release of the
USDA findings about shared dairy workers between infected dairies and
other dairy farms and poultry farms.

California demonstrated this by finding an inordinate number of infected
dairies by contact tracing. The USDA started to assist with contact
tracing and they ended up detecting over 70% of the dairy herds in
California as being infected. This should tell anyone that the efforts
of the other infected states was inadequate. Colorado is the only state
that tested all their dairy herds (they only had around 100 herds in the
whole state) and over 60% of the herds were found to be infected.

California started testing dairy workers and found the largest number of
infected workers by testing only 130 individuals, but they quit testing
for some reason, and for over a month the CDC has only claimed +530 (130
of those from California) individuals tested in all the US. California
claimed that they were going to start testing dairy workers and their
close contacts, but that never happened. They claim over 5,000 dairy
workers at infected farms, but nearly all of them remain untested.

For some reason California also refused to limit dairy workers working
on poultry farms and ended up with over 40% of their commercial layer
flocks infected.

The number of tested workers likely includes the antibody tested
Colorado and Michigan workers where 7% were found to have been infected,
but those 8 individuals are not included in the table of infected. Nor
are the 2 individuals that were shown to be infected by antibody testing
in Texas early in the infection. One of the Texas dairy workers did not
have cattle contact (they worked in the cafeteria), and could have been
human to human transmission because the other infected dairy worker
worked on the same farm.

The suppression isn't just limited to not testing, and not including
positive cases, but the CDC has started to not make a distinction
between the B3.13 infections from the D1.1 infections. This is
tragically stupid because the two have to be dealt with in different
ways. All they needed to do with B3.13 was to detect the infected
dairies and test all the dairy workers, but that was never done. The
D1.1 genotype is coming from wild birds, and they need to monitor people
with bird contact. They need to think about vaccinating these people
and their animals against the D1.1 genotype. Instead of doing nothing
but monitoring, they need to find out where the D1.1 genotype exists,
educate the people with potential contact, and try to protect these
people and their animals. If their animals show symptoms they need to
limit bird contact, contact the USDA and CDC immediately, and guys with
hazmat suits will be out to check their flocks because the testers do
not want to be infected either. In both cases the D1.1 genotype has
produced the next pandemic virus. The claim is that those mutations
occurred within the infected individuals, but it would have had to have
happened twice thousands of miles apart. This means that the next
person to be infected likely has a good chance of also producing the
next pandemic virus. The claim is that the D1.1 virus had evolved to
better infect humans in both patients and that likely contributed to
their serious infection (the Louisiana patient died and the Canadian
patient could not breath on their own for a period of time).

The CDC should be doing a lot more than just "monitoring" and waiting
for the next pandemic to start.

Ron Okimoto
RonO
2025-01-15 19:12:07 UTC
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Post by RonO
https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html
After the cats likely got infected by the dairy virus by eating infected
meat the CDC has stopped differentiating the B3.13 dairy genotype from
the D1.1 wild bird H5N1.  That information has not been released for the
Wisconsin poultry worker.
This is likely to cover up their inept response to the dairy infection,
but is resulting in their treatment of the D1.1 infections as ineptly as
they have treated the dairy infections.  The CDC has screwed up by the
numbers since the start of the infection back in March 2024.  Even
though they knew that dairy workers were being infected (they had
already isolated live virus from the first infected dairy worker, and
cultured it) they refused to start dairy worker testing and contact
tracing.  It looks like the virus has mainly been spread by dairy
workers shared between farms, and that also work on commercial poultry
farms.  They have known this since June 2024 with the release of the
USDA findings about shared dairy workers between infected dairies and
other dairy farms and poultry farms.
California demonstrated this by finding an inordinate number of infected
dairies by contact tracing.  The USDA started to assist with contact
tracing and they ended up detecting over 70% of the dairy herds in
California as being infected.  This should tell anyone that the efforts
of the other infected states was inadequate.  Colorado is the only state
that tested all their dairy herds (they only had around 100 herds in the
whole state) and over 60% of the herds were found to be infected.
California started testing dairy workers and found the largest number of
infected workers by testing only 130 individuals, but they quit testing
for some reason, and for over a month the CDC has only claimed +530 (130
of those from California) individuals tested in all the US.  California
claimed that they were going to start testing dairy workers and their
close contacts, but that never happened.  They claim over 5,000 dairy
workers at infected farms, but nearly all of them remain untested.
For some reason California also refused to limit dairy workers working
on poultry farms and ended up with over 40% of their commercial layer
flocks infected.
The number of tested workers likely includes the antibody tested
Colorado and Michigan workers where 7% were found to have been infected,
but those 8 individuals are not included in the table of infected.  Nor
are the 2 individuals that were shown to be infected by antibody testing
in Texas early in the infection.  One of the Texas dairy workers did not
have cattle contact (they worked in the cafeteria), and could have been
human to human transmission because the other infected dairy worker
worked on the same farm.
The suppression isn't just limited to not testing, and not including
positive cases, but the CDC has started to not make a distinction
between the B3.13 infections from the D1.1 infections.  This is
tragically stupid because the two have to be dealt with in different
ways.  All they needed to do with B3.13 was to detect the infected
dairies and test all the dairy workers, but that was never done.  The
D1.1 genotype is coming from wild birds, and they need to monitor people
with bird contact.  They need to think about vaccinating these people
and their animals against the D1.1 genotype.  Instead of doing nothing
but monitoring, they need to find out where the D1.1 genotype exists,
educate the people with potential contact, and try to protect these
people and their animals.  If their animals show symptoms they need to
limit bird contact, contact the USDA and CDC immediately, and guys with
hazmat suits will be out to check their flocks because the testers do
not want to be infected either.  In both cases the D1.1 genotype has
produced the next pandemic virus.  The claim is that those mutations
occurred within the infected individuals, but it would have had to have
happened twice thousands of miles apart.  This means that the next
person to be infected likely has a good chance of also producing the
next pandemic virus.  The claim is that the D1.1 virus had evolved to
better infect humans in both patients and that likely contributed to
their serious infection (the Louisiana patient died and the Canadian
patient could not breath on their own for a period of time).
The CDC should be doing a lot more than just "monitoring" and waiting
for the next pandemic to start.
Ron Okimoto
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/inflation-report-expected-show-increase-days-trump-takes/story?id=117617440

This article is claiming that egg prices are 36% higher than last year,
and last year we were just getting over the 2022 flock losses. They are
claiming Avian flu is the cause, but the actual cause is the inaction of
the USDA and CDC to control the dairy influenza epidemic, and identify
the dairy workers that were infected and taking the virus to poultry
farms and infecting the commercial birds.

There has never been an effort to identify all the infected dairies nor
test the dairy workers, and they have known that infected dairy workers
were shedding infective virus from the very first case of an infected
worker in Texas in March 2023. It took them until June to release their
findings that dairy workers were working on more than one dairy, and
that 2 dairy workers were associated with working on two of the infected
layer farms in Michigan, and still they did nothing to prevent dairy
workers from spreading the virus to more farms.

So the cost of eggs is 36% higher and going up as more commercial farms
are being infected by the dairy virus. Meat birds both broilers and
turkeys have also gone down, but flocks are only around 100,000 for each
farm for meat birds. The issue with commercial egg farms is that each
farm has over a million birds on them. The First Texas and Michigan
farms had 3 million birds each on them that had to be killed due to the
dairy infection.

Ron Okimoto
RonO
2025-01-18 18:57:45 UTC
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Post by RonO
https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html
After the cats likely got infected by the dairy virus by eating
infected meat the CDC has stopped differentiating the B3.13 dairy
genotype from the D1.1 wild bird H5N1.  That information has not been
released for the Wisconsin poultry worker.
This is likely to cover up their inept response to the dairy
infection, but is resulting in their treatment of the D1.1 infections
as ineptly as they have treated the dairy infections.  The CDC has
screwed up by the numbers since the start of the infection back in
March 2024.  Even though they knew that dairy workers were being
infected (they had already isolated live virus from the first infected
dairy worker, and cultured it) they refused to start dairy worker
testing and contact tracing.  It looks like the virus has mainly been
spread by dairy workers shared between farms, and that also work on
commercial poultry farms.  They have known this since June 2024 with
the release of the USDA findings about shared dairy workers between
infected dairies and other dairy farms and poultry farms.
California demonstrated this by finding an inordinate number of
infected dairies by contact tracing.  The USDA started to assist with
contact tracing and they ended up detecting over 70% of the dairy
herds in California as being infected.  This should tell anyone that
the efforts of the other infected states was inadequate.  Colorado is
the only state that tested all their dairy herds (they only had around
100 herds in the whole state) and over 60% of the herds were found to
be infected.
California started testing dairy workers and found the largest number
of infected workers by testing only 130 individuals, but they quit
testing for some reason, and for over a month the CDC has only claimed
+530 (130 of those from California) individuals tested in all the US.
California claimed that they were going to start testing dairy workers
and their close contacts, but that never happened.  They claim over
5,000 dairy workers at infected farms, but nearly all of them remain
untested.
For some reason California also refused to limit dairy workers working
on poultry farms and ended up with over 40% of their commercial layer
flocks infected.
The number of tested workers likely includes the antibody tested
Colorado and Michigan workers where 7% were found to have been
infected, but those 8 individuals are not included in the table of
infected.  Nor are the 2 individuals that were shown to be infected by
antibody testing in Texas early in the infection.  One of the Texas
dairy workers did not have cattle contact (they worked in the
cafeteria), and could have been human to human transmission because
the other infected dairy worker worked on the same farm.
The suppression isn't just limited to not testing, and not including
positive cases, but the CDC has started to not make a distinction
between the B3.13 infections from the D1.1 infections.  This is
tragically stupid because the two have to be dealt with in different
ways.  All they needed to do with B3.13 was to detect the infected
dairies and test all the dairy workers, but that was never done.  The
D1.1 genotype is coming from wild birds, and they need to monitor
people with bird contact.  They need to think about vaccinating these
people and their animals against the D1.1 genotype.  Instead of doing
nothing but monitoring, they need to find out where the D1.1 genotype
exists, educate the people with potential contact, and try to protect
these people and their animals.  If their animals show symptoms they
need to limit bird contact, contact the USDA and CDC immediately, and
guys with hazmat suits will be out to check their flocks because the
testers do not want to be infected either.  In both cases the D1.1
genotype has produced the next pandemic virus.  The claim is that
those mutations occurred within the infected individuals, but it would
have had to have happened twice thousands of miles apart.  This means
that the next person to be infected likely has a good chance of also
producing the next pandemic virus.  The claim is that the D1.1 virus
had evolved to better infect humans in both patients and that likely
contributed to their serious infection (the Louisiana patient died and
the Canadian patient could not breath on their own for a period of time).
The CDC should be doing a lot more than just "monitoring" and waiting
for the next pandemic to start.
Ron Okimoto
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/inflation-report-expected-show-increase-
days-trump-takes/story?id=117617440
This article is claiming that egg prices are 36% higher than last year,
and last year we were just getting over the 2022 flock losses.  They are
claiming Avian flu is the cause, but the actual cause is the inaction of
the USDA and CDC to control the dairy influenza epidemic, and identify
the dairy workers that were infected and taking the virus to poultry
farms and infecting the commercial birds.
There has never been an effort to identify all the infected dairies nor
test the dairy workers, and they have known that infected dairy workers
were shedding infective virus from the very first case of an infected
worker in Texas in March 2023.  It took them until June to release their
findings that dairy workers were working on more than one dairy, and
that 2 dairy workers were associated with working on two of the infected
layer farms in Michigan, and still they did nothing to prevent dairy
workers from spreading the virus to more farms.
So the cost of eggs is 36% higher and going up as more commercial farms
are being infected by the dairy virus.  Meat birds both broilers and
turkeys have also gone down, but flocks are only around 100,000 for each
farm for meat birds.  The issue with commercial egg farms is that each
farm has over a million birds on them.  The First Texas and Michigan
farms had 3 million birds each on them that had to be killed due to the
dairy infection.
Ron Okimoto
I do not understand the current suppression of information on the "bird
flu". For some reason they have stopped differentiating the dairy virus
from other wild bird subtypes. They stopped when Oregon and Washington
got infected, but were not admitting to any infected dairy herds. Cats
and poultry workers got infected, and they didn't want to admit that it
was due to the dairy virus.

https://agr.georgia.gov/pr/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-confirmed-commercial-poultry-flock-georgia-all-poultry

Georgia needs to know if they are dealing with the dairy virus or some
other virus like the D1.1 genotype. If it is the dairy virus, they can
keep their poultry farms from being infected by identifying the infected
dairies, and preventing dairy workers on those infected farms from
working on commercial poultry farms. If it the D1.1 genotype, they need
to be very vigilant, and detect backyard flock infections as quickly as
possible. They need to inform the people that they have to minimize
contact with potentially infected animals.

Ron Okimoto

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