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Missouri antibody results
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RonO
2024-10-24 23:10:42 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/missouri-h5n1-serology-testing.html

6 of the 7 hospital contacts had their serum tested, but all were negative.

The patient and one family member that had shown similar symptoms tested
positive for 2 of the 3 H5N1 antibody tests indicating that they had
similar infections. The CDC is claiming that there is no evidence for
person to person transmission, and that both family members could have
been infected from the same source. This source is not known since they
had no contact with sick birds nor cattle.

So 2 people in Missouri were infected by the dairy influenza, but they
do not know the source of the infection. My guess is that they shared
the same bottle of milk, and that dairy products in Missouri need to be
tested in light of the recent CDC results indicating that the virus may
survive the most common method of pasteurization. Both family members
exhibited evidence of gut infection. The Asian H5N1 strain has been
known to cause diarrhea in human patients that had injested infected
goose blood.

Ron Okimoto
JTEM
2024-10-25 00:59:43 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/missouri-h5n1-serology-testing.html
6 of the 7 hospital contacts had their serum tested, but all were negative.
Just searched Tumblr and found this for you:

https://www.tumblr.com/tom-mcd71/765226791823638528

Enlarge the photo. Read the box...

IT'S THE EXACT SAME TEST!

There aren't two or three tests inside that box. It's one test.

It's always been one test.

You want us to make brown in the back of our shorts, they way
you keep doing here, when everything you keep saying in this
topic is not only in line with long stated policy goals but it
mirrors another PlanDemic that we all lived through, we all
witnessed...
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
RonO
2024-10-25 13:14:06 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/missouri-h5n1-serology-
testing.html
6 of the 7 hospital contacts had their serum tested, but all were negative.
https://www.tumblr.com/tom-mcd71/765226791823638528
Enlarge the photo. Read the box...
IT'S THE EXACT SAME TEST!
There aren't two or three tests inside that box. It's one test.
It's always been one test.
You want us to make brown in the back of our shorts, they way
you keep doing here, when everything you keep saying in this
topic is not only in line with long stated policy goals but it
mirrors another PlanDemic that we all lived through, we all
witnessed...
If you read the link that you haven't yet snipped out you would know
that the post is about the H5N1 avian influenza serology (antibody)
test, and not the Covid test that you linked to. Better, if you had
used the link there would have been no doubt about what the post was about.

Ron Okimoto
JTEM
2024-10-25 19:44:47 UTC
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If you read the link that you haven't yet snipped out you would know
that the post is about the H5N1 avian influenza
The flu.

"Oh, see? Totally different than the flu!"

This "Flu" is 100% in line with stated policy goals and follows
the exact same game plan we all lived through in 2020.

Stop it. They will kill you when they want to. That's what the
Great Reset is all about. Meat is too good for you. Eat bugs.
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RonO
2024-10-25 14:12:00 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/missouri-h5n1-serology-testing.html
6 of the 7 hospital contacts had their serum tested, but all were negative.
The patient and one family member that had shown similar symptoms tested
positive for 2 of the 3 H5N1 antibody tests indicating that they had
similar infections.  The CDC is claiming that there is no evidence for
person to person transmission, and that both family members could have
been infected from the same source.  This source is not known since they
had no contact with sick birds nor cattle.
So 2 people in Missouri were infected by the dairy influenza, but they
do not know the source of the infection.  My guess is that they shared
the same bottle of milk, and that dairy products in Missouri need to be
tested in light of the recent CDC results indicating that the virus may
survive the most common method of pasteurization.  Both family members
exhibited evidence of gut infection.  The Asian H5N1 strain has been
known to cause diarrhea in human patients that had injested infected
goose blood.
Ron Okimoto
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/serologic-tests-rule-out-avian-flu-missouri-health-workers-cdc-confirms-2

This article reports the antibody test results in Missouri, but also
notes that the dairy virus was confirmed by sequence results to have
infected a 1.8 million bird layer flock in Utah. Poultry flocks get
infected by infected dairy herds (share workers) in the other states
with infected dairy herds, and so Utah is starting bulk tank milk
testing of dairy farms in the infected Utah county even though none of
them have self reported being infected. They likely should start
contact tracing like in California. Florida did not do this even after
poultry flocks started to go down with the dairy virus and the virus was
found in milk products produced in Florida by the FDA. The infected
dairy herds in Florida remain undetected. Freely spreading the virus
and infecting dairy workers in contact with infected animals.

Ron Okimoto
RonO
2024-10-25 21:12:16 UTC
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https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/missouri-h5n1-serology-testing.html
6 of the 7 hospital contacts had their serum tested, but all were negative.
The patient and one family member that had shown similar symptoms tested
positive for 2 of the 3 H5N1 antibody tests indicating that they had
similar infections.  The CDC is claiming that there is no evidence for
person to person transmission, and that both family members could have
been infected from the same source.  This source is not known since they
had no contact with sick birds nor cattle.
So 2 people in Missouri were infected by the dairy influenza, but they
do not know the source of the infection.  My guess is that they shared
the same bottle of milk, and that dairy products in Missouri need to be
tested in light of the recent CDC results indicating that the virus may
survive the most common method of pasteurization.  Both family members
exhibited evidence of gut infection.  The Asian H5N1 strain has been
known to cause diarrhea in human patients that had injested infected
goose blood.
Ron Okimoto
It should be noted that this trial had the Missouri patient as a
positive control, and the antibody testing can still be considered to be
a failure. Both the Missouri patient and their household contact were
only positive for one of the 3 antibody tests. This was using
antibodies made to a synthetic H5 gene with the two mutations found in
the Missouri patient.

It looks like previous serum testing as was done in Michigan are suspect
since they did not have the known positive dairy workers in the study as
positive controls, and all the dairy workers tested were negative. It
looks like the infected are not mounting an effective immune response to
the virus. I recall that Texas dairy worker antibody testing
researchers cited earlier testing of poultry workers exposed to the H5N1
avian influenza before it infected dairy cattle, and they found that the
poultry workers did not mount an effective immune response, and were
only positive for one of the antibody tests done on them. This sounds
like what the CDC is finding with the dairy virus.

The CDC updated their numbers yesterday, and did not include the second
Missouri case among their infected humans, and they still do not
acknowledge the two Texas dairy workers identified to have H5N1
antibodies indicating past infection.

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html

Ron Okimoto

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