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Intelligent design the truly scientific method
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RonO
2024-06-09 14:39:15 UTC
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It is likely more stupidity than any attempt at an honest effort that
this article was put up under the ID perp's Faith and Science heading
instead of Intelligent Design. Doesn't placing this article under Faith
and Science indicate that Luskin is lying in his quotes in the article?

https://evolutionnews.org/2024/06/luskin-why-intelligent-design-is-the-truly-scientific-method/

Just imagine what the ID scam would be like today if "ID uses the
scientific method, is testable, and is perfectly happy when it yields a
natural explanation for any given phenomenon. It’s also open to
explanations that recognize the activity of a designing mind, when
evidence supports that conclusion. The ID scientist who is a religious
believer believes whatever he does for reasons of his own — not because
he “used” ID to support his view."

Luskin should spend more time trying to explain why ID has only been
used as bait to attract the rubes so that the Discovery Institute could
feed them the obfuscation and denial switch scam that the ID perps tell
the rubes has nothing to do with their ID science. Luskin is one of the
authors of the current teach ID propaganda where the ID perps claim that
the Dover decision was wrong, and ID can still be taught in the public
schools, but as the last example in Virginia indicates, Luskin claimed
that the ID perps did not want ID taught in the public schools, but they
were pushing the switch scam onto the rubes that were stupid enough to
pass legislation that would allow teaching IDiocy in the public schools.

No one has ever gotten any ID science to teach from the ID perps. The
bait and switch has gone down every single time a group of creationist
rubes takes them up on their claims to be able to teach the junk.

The ID scam died on TO because the creationist advocates were using it
to support their religious beliefs, so Luskin is just lying. Nelson has
been an ID perp from the initiation of the ID scam unit at the Discovery
Institute, and he has never supported any ID science. The junk that the
other ID perps were putting up was of no interest to Nelson. He always
claimed that they were working on the science, but hadn't produced any,
yet. If they had, young earth creationists like Nelson would have quit
the ID scam because it would just have been more science to deny.
Everyone should understand that this is true because what would Nelson
have done if Meyer had ever scientifically demonstrated that some
designer had been responsible for the Cambrian explosion within a 25
million year period over half a billion years ago, or if Behe had found
his 3 neutral mutations that occurred in some bacteria over a billion
years ago to help evolve the flagellum from preexisting parts?

The last IDiotic hold outs on TO quit because the Top Six evidences for
IDiocy made them realize that they had only been lying to themselves
about why they supported the ID scam. They were all doing it to support
their religious beliefs, but the Top Six told them that any ID science
would not be Biblical. It would just be more science to deny. The
Reason to Believe creationists once claimed to be IDiotic intelligent
design advocates, but they are now down playing it, and ID is no longer
mentioned on their Home page. They also found that nature is not
Biblical. It should have been no surprise because it was known that the
world was not flat before Christ was born. There is no firmament above
the earth, and the universe is not geocentric. Why would they expect to
find that the order of creation was as written in the Bible? They even
admit that a lot is not mentioned in the Bible like the origin of life
and the subsequent evolution of that life over billions of years. They
know that land plants created during the third period of time were
created long after the first life forms were created, but they still
need to deny what the Cambrian explosion fossils tell them and want land
plants to have been created before sea creatures, and they want whales
to be created with the first sea creatures when they obviously did not
evolve until long after land animals had been created. The Reason to
Believe IDiots even admit that they are using ID to support their
Biblical interpretations, and they have found out that any real science
works against them. It doesn't matter if they call it intelligent
design science or not, science is just the study of nature, and nature
is not Biblical.

Ron Okimoto
RonO
2024-06-12 17:14:16 UTC
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Test new computer. I use the gmail account for junk and haven't checked
incoming emails on that account for years.
RonO
2024-06-12 18:29:51 UTC
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